On fae/faer pronouns and cultural appropriation: https://gendercensus.tumblr.com/post/643657043304153088/on-faefaer-pronouns-and-cultural-appropriation
I'm not really "pagan" because I reject most pre-set belief, but I have to admit that my "personally crafted spirituality" is very influenced by paganism, so still felt legitimate to answer (no strong feelings/other)
I personnaly don't mind. But I can see how some people would be offended by people using fae/faer just for "fun" or because it's "cool" without any "legitimate" meaning behind it. But then, I don't wanna be policing people spirituality either...
@gendercensus I don't see the need for gatekeeping here. Let people enjoy themselves, why yuck their yum?
@shivian Just to clarify - is that your view as a pagan/Celtic person re: the fae/faer pronouns, or is that your view about me running these polls?
@gendercensus my view as a neopagan (of over 20 years)
@shivian Cool, thank you for your opinion and your clarification! :)
@gendercensus thanks for asking, BTW 💖
I had no reason to connect the two until this poll. I always saw it in a more nonhuman/otherkin context, not a pagan one.
(- as a non Celtic pagan)
@gendercensus I'm "more pagan than anything else" wrt: religion/spirituality/woo, have been for literally over thirty years, and I think it's pretty awesome, actually. I've usually seen it used as an otherkin signifier, enough so that I've been tempted to use "drak/drake" as a pronoun set (for being dragon-gender).
and... I'm arguably of Celtic decent? I've been told that a majority of my white ancestors who came to the US did so from the UK area, but 1. I don't know how much of that is true 2. I don't know any specifics 3. that's only some of my ancestors, most of the rest are unaccounted for 4. I have no stake in Celtic identity/culture whatsoever, so I picked "Not Celtic, show results" for that poll.
@troodon Ahh yeah, most of the people in the UK are English and so not Celtic, you'd need more info to know for sure! Anyway, yes, thanks for the extra information and clarification, very cool. :)
@troodon @gendercensus Paganish, from the UK, probably not of Celtic extraction (Anglo/Polish)? But yeah, I've seen it crop up pretty much exclusively with otherkin and people who feel that a fae or faerie image fits their gender.
(I think it would be apropos to note that the word "faerie/fairy" has been a synonym for various queer identities for decades, too. The Radical Faeries are a good example.)
Also drak/drake pronouns are good
@gendercensus Interesting. I get the concern about fae curses, though I personally feel like otherkin people should be able to use the pronouns.
I'm "ugh" about qualifying it as "cultural appropriation" though. It's certainly isn't the same stakes as for PoC, but I wouldn't know what to call it.
To me it sounds like indeed some people on tiktok made some discourse that wasn't questioned by some (mostly) young people.
@gendercensus Oh and I'm talking from an eclectic pagan non celtic viewpoint.
@gendercensus (Celtic is a bit blurry though, where I come from we definitely have fae legends (Melusine) and it was historically celtic, but we don't speak a celtic language, if that's what matters)
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