@gendercensus For me, the essence of "queer" is that someone who wants to know who I am in the world of gender and sexuality - "and" or "or", but it's "and" in my case - might be in for a longer conversation than they are prepared for: that to answer that question is going to require me to attack the philosophical assumptions of what gender and sexuality /are/, and sometimes I'd be happier leaving it at "it's complicated" than trying to teach that seminar just to come out to a person.

Like, it's an umbrella? But it also has that meaning of complexity.

And, like, I wouldn't have written it in, but if it's on the checklist, then yes - my gender is that complicated, it is a queer gender. Genderqueer and nonbinary are umbrellas, too. All three cover me.

@gendercensus because of queers position as an umbrella term, theres a lot of ‘soft’ identification with the word, which’d account for people clicking it once it’s an option, but not thinking to write it in

@Satsuma Yeah, some people have pointed out things along those lines, and if I look at it at the right angle the vaguer terms do seem to be selected more when they're added as checkbox options, so maybe that's it!

@gendercensus i agree that its a pretty dramatic jump, but I think in the context of umbrella terms its not necessarily an implausible jump?

I definitely checked it this year, despite not writing it in previously. I’m not actually 100% sure what I’d do if the check box said queer (as a gender term) or whatever but I definitely consider it an umbrella identity that I fall under so

@Satsuma I guess we will find out next year, when I make it a bit more specific. :)

@gendercensus it’ll be interesting to see how the numbers change next year I suppose!

(Similarly, have you considered asking a set of sexuality questions? It could be interesting)

@Satsuma I have considered the sexuality questions, but I ruled it out because it's not something I'm personally interested in so I'd probably not do a very good job of it! I might do it one year, as a one-off question, but I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

@Satsuma I think part of it is I just can't work out how the sexual orientation system really works or how I fit into it, I keep trying to figure it out and just when I think I've got the knack it slides out from under me and I am like 🙃 again! Nonbinary problems, probably.

@gendercensus yeah a lot of it was built before there was any clear conceptualization of non-binaryness (as much as there even is a conceptualization now I mean) so the way the words line up can be...wonky

But thats part of why I think its so interesting to hear what words people use!

@Satsuma Oh truuue, it definitely would be interesting! Maybe I'm just not the person for this particular job then. Which is a shame, because I am very curious and like running surveys... :P

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